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Sat Jun 08, 2002 3:23 am
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Is it proper to invite people to the ceremony and not the reception. When I say people, I mean co-workers, casual friends, old high school buddies or college friends - all in town guests. We are having a nice reception and can't afford to invite everyone that we want. But we will still like them to be a part of the wedding, which is at a large church and can hold plenty of people. How can we go about doing this, or should we not invite them at all (although we really want to)? One option we have is to not put the reception card in their invitation, but should we tell them something, like, due to blah blah we were unable to invite all of our guests to the reception, but we would still love for you to attend the ceremony. Or what should we say? HELP!!
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Sat Jun 08, 2002 3:23 am
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According to etiquette, everyone who attends the ceremony should be invited to the reception. It is acceptable to have a small ceremony and a large reception, but not the other way around. One way to handle the problem is to have a cake and punch reception at the church immediately following the ceremony for all of the guests followed by a private reception for close friends and family. However, there will still be some who will be offended when they learn that they were not included at the second reception.
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Mon Jul 22, 2002 7:14 am
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How would you like to know you aren't invited to the reception? Good enuff to get to come to the ceremony, but not good enuff to come to the reception. Tacky, tacky, tacky.
This, to me, is unforgivable.
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Fri Aug 30, 2002 10:52 pm
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Allowing the pastor to make an announcement that the reception is private for family and close friends is occasionally done in smaller communities and close-knit church congregations, but I wouldn't try it anywhere else. Its still a breach of etiquette no matter who or how the announcement is made. An invitation to the ceremony implies the need to bring a gift. When one is invited only to the ceremony, the impression is given that the individuals were only invited for the gift and you don't want to spend money on them in return.
Its really better to limit the ceremony and reception only to those that you can afford to accommodate rather than risk offending people.
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Fri Jun 20, 2003 5:43 am
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It's your wedding.
If friends don't understand, then they are not really friends.
However, if you invite someone that will talk with someone that is not invited that could be tricky.
There is no reason to invite to the reception, people that you have not heard from for a long time.
As far as 'etiquette', who made these rules!! there not the ten commandments.
Too much stress it put on the couples, especially when they are paying for the wedding themselves. Maybe back when women had no say, and marriages where arranged and parents controled the wedding plans this was then PROPER.
No one should feel they should spend extra money to fit the 'etiquette', weddings are not about scoring points, obligations, or comparing to other weddings.
Remember you are getting married for yourselves and not others. Friends and Families are invited to share the couples' joy. |
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Mon Nov 17, 2003 10:55 am
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I am sure that you will NOt have to issue formal invites to a ceremony as people find out maturally or ask, I mean in a work cituation how many times do you get asked when are you getting married and about your plans, if you were to casually bring up your time and place in this cituation then if they wish to attend then FINE and if they don't then FINE, I mean they (co-workers etc) tend to hear through the grape vine anyway and if it is know that you are having a small weeding with only CLOSE friends and family then NO noses should be put out (as long as you don't choose some co-works who are NOT close friends and then NOT choos others, with NO real rhyme or reason to it (that they can see, except that you don't like them).
I have attended the ceremonies of friends when I haven't been invited because I was HAPPY to see them get married and congratulated the bride and groom after the ceremony before they left the church/venue and then I either went homeor went out to dinner with other friends etc who only attended the ceremony (THAT WE CHOSE TO GO TO).
That is my 2 cents worth any way.
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Tue Dec 16, 2003 4:33 am
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How can a bride and groom see people come from far away to attend their wedding, and not even be willing to put on a party for them??? (Note: You don't have to have dinner. It can be a lower-food party) IMHO if you can't afford to feed them all, DON'T have dinner, or DON'T invite them to the ceremony.
OF course you can do what you want, but it really is bad manners to invite to the ceremony and not the party afterward. |
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Thu Jan 22, 2004 1:21 am
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Buzz I find the way you have written this a bit uneasy and offensive.
| Buzz wrote: | | the bride and groom are graciously allowing guests to honour and bless their exchange of vows, should not their guests be honoured to be able to witness such a wonderful event? |
The Bride and Groom do NOT graciously allow guests to honor and bless there exchange, they invite there friends and family to support them and to witness the ceremony they choose to join themselves as husband and wife and to join there lives together for life, the Bride and Groom do this "usually" because they wish to have there family and friends witness and share this happy event in there lives. Nearly All guest do simply attend as they are honored to have been asked to witness the occasion and NOT becasue they expect food (I have been to many wedding where I have only gone to the Ceremony ONLY and have not felt slighted and in fact have felt honored to have been asked / allowed to witness this union).
As to your comment about | Buzz wrote: | | should guests who bring gifts because they expect dinner be encouraged in this selfish, unreasonable attitude? | , guest do NOT bring gifts because they EXPECT dinner they bring gifts if they so choose to do so, simply becasue they do CHOOSE to do so, to give the bride and groom a small token to remember the day and as a gift of love and friendship and as a small token to take with them on there new life together as man and wife as a little reminder of the day and of the people who shared the occasion with them. It is NOT payment for food, or for being invited it is something that people (guests) can decide to do if they wish, it is NOT a compulsory thing, where you enter the reception and have your name ticked off a list along with the gift you have given (or have with you) recorded to make sure you have given a gift expensive enough to cover the cost of your meal or you will not be allowed to enter, I find this Offensive to say the least. if the bride and groom need help from there guest to pay for the meals then they should have wither cut there guest list or changed ther menu or type of reception to cake and punch or finger food or even a BBQ.
| Buzz wrote: | | this etiquette is unreasonable and unrealistic. |
Exactly which ettiquette is it that you find unreasonable and unrealistic??? the one where couple choose to host a reception at all (there is no real set etiquette that I know of that say that the bride and groom MUST host a reception or it must be such and such a ind or reception), there is a difference between tradition and ettiquette, traditionally most couple have a reception of some sort be it a picnic, BBQ, finger food, cake and coffee, or full buffet or sit down 10 course meal, one of my cousisn had a recpetion that was a picnic and it was specifically asked that NO ONE bring gifts and tht instead each person bring a picnic basket and picnic lunch to share in one of the local gardens/parks so that the bride and groom could simply spend time with there families and friends. EVERYONE who attended loved the idea and it went very well. I have also been to pot luck parties after weddings instead of a trditional reception everyone brought a dish and this was shared as a pot luck dinner after the ceremony and photo's etc.
| Buzz wrote: | | guests and their motives should not be the deciding factor in a decision the bride and groom have every liberty to make. |
"guests and their motives", I mean what motives do you think guests have except to attend the event planned by the bride and groom (no guest has ANY say in the planning and running of the wedding), guest on the whole simply attend at a specified date and time an event that the bride and groom (and sometimes there families) have planned, they have no real way of knowing what kind of event it is that is planned except if this information has been inclosed in the invitation such as (formal dress or cake and coffee to be served at ...... afterwards). In most cases reception information if enclosed is simply a time and place and not a list of menu items or types of meals etc to be served, guests attend to be a part of the day that the Bride and Groom have planned for themselves to celebrate there own marriage, I mean this whole thing is about the Marriage and NOT the wedding.... There is a HUGE difference between the wedding and the marriage. I myself prefer to attend so that I can witness there first few hours of marriage and NOT to attend the wedding as such. I have been to weddings that were held as a surprise to ALL guests (it was a new years eve fancy dress party and NO ONE but the Bride and Groom and there parents knew it was to be a wedding).
PLEASE Buzz if you ahve a problem with attending weddings then simpyl DO NOT attend or if you are infact plkanning a wedding then plan the day that you and your intended want and NOT worry about what the guests might want, the wedding is simply the cremony that witnesses the commitment to the mariage it is the Marriage that you should be concerned about and NOT the wedding.......
This is my own opinion and sure the above is yours it is jus that the way you have written it is offensive to anyone who has EVER attended a wedding as a guest.
I have to to many many different celebrations of marriage and have heard of MANY MANY others from vow renewals, to second and above marriages to those being married for the first time in a full elaborate church wedding witht he full traditional reception afterwards to those who got married in the park with an officiant and then went out for pizza after with friends or simply had the cake and coffee on the picnic tbles in the park before heading off to enjoy married life.
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Tue Feb 10, 2004 4:07 pm
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Quite simply, if you don't have the money to invite them to the reception, then do not invite them.
Having a small intimate affair is fine, acceptable and understandable. Inviting folks to your ceremony and not to your reception is NOT. |
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Fri Oct 22, 2004 1:17 am
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Your situation is a difficult one. From an etiquette perspective, your parents are not responsible for paying for any more guests than they choose to. If your MIL wants to invite so many people, she should offer to help with the costs of the reception.
What you are planning to do, with the larger "official" reception followed by a later time for family and friends is an excellent way to handle the situation. You fulfill your social obligations by having the reception following the ceremony. Whatever you choose to do after that is a personal matter. It is a good idea, however, to not call the second get-together a reception but rather a family dinner. That way, no one can complain that they were excluded from a reception. |
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Mon Jun 20, 2005 9:21 pm
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| If you can't afford to invite all of your ceremony guests to the reception, rather than offend them, it would be better to have a smaller ceremony and reception then send out announcements after the wedding to those that you were not able to invite. I would disagree that a person isn't being a friend if they don't understand that they have been excluded when others have been included. It gives the impression that the hosts are the ones who are not true friends. |
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Mon Jul 04, 2005 5:32 pm
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| The cookies and punch reception at the church will be fine as long as everyone who attends the ceremony is included. What you do after that time is up to you and is considered post-wedding activities. You should serve the wedding cake, if you are having one, at the church reception, since that is the "official" reception for all of the guests. You can spend your time greeting guests and mingling. Then, when you are ready to leave, plan some type of exit, whether by having guests line up as you go through the line to your get-away car or have them blow bubbles or whatever you choose. Your exit signals the end of the reception and the official end to the wedding activities. You have thus fulfilled your social obligations by entertaining all of your guests in exchange for their time and efforts to come to the wedding. |
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Fri Sep 02, 2005 5:41 pm
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What your father has suggested is the socially acceptable way to include everyone at a reception while not including all of the guests at the post-reception festivities. The response directly above your post explains the procedure for having both an "official" reception and a later party, which is not referred to as a reception. If your parents host the post-reception party, then they choose who attends and who doesn't.
From an etiquette perspective, your fiance's friends have no reason to assume that they will be invited to the wedding unless or until they actually receive an invitation. If you were to decide that you wanted to have a small wedding with only family and very close friends, that is your choice and no one should complain about not being invited.
It could create problems in your relationship with your fiance if you invite your friends but don't allow his to be invited as well. Therefore, you will need to draw the line somewhere and decide just how close the friends should be to be included in all activities. |
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Wed Jan 04, 2006 2:35 am
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| In your situation, it would be best not to initiate an invitation to all of the teachers to attend the ceremony. Instead, just as you did with the one teacher, handle each situation individually. Technically, it is bad manners for someone to invite themselves to someone else's event when they didn't receive an invitation. Most people understand it if you choose to have a smaller wedding and they understand when they are not invited. |
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Thu Feb 09, 2006 3:20 am
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| As you discovered, inviting guests to the ceremony and not the reception is considered a major breach of manners and people react strongly. Though some people will understand, others won't and friendships can be ruined. When people feel as if they are being treated as "second class friends," they respond by ending the friendship. It is better to scale back and invite fewer guests to the ceremony if you can't also invite them to the reception. |
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